The Tempermentals – Free Ticket Give Away from Best Gay New York.com
Critics are saying The Temperamentals is intelligent, political,
witty, moving, wise, and most importantly, entertaining.
***UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE!***
One winner in our ticket giveaway was selected at random today.
Thanks to the nearly 100 readers who entered our contest this month!
Using a RANDOM NUMBER selector, the scientific system chose
ANDREW BECK!
Congratulations Andrew! Someone will be contacting
you in the next day to make arrangements for your free tickets!
If you did not win, hopefully you can still see the great play.
$19.52 Preview Tickets! Limited time offer!
You have one of three ways
to use the following discount code: TEPREV12 Call (212) 947-8844
Go to the New World Stages Box Office or Visit Broadwayoffers.com
New World Stages @ 340 West 50th Street
For all other performance times and tickets, please visit Telecharge or call (646)871-1730
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New Broadway Hottie Ace Young Joins HAIR Cast in New York City
The New York cast may be going to London, but HAIR on Broadway has a hot and sexy new cast!
Broadway Hottie and American Idol Finalist Ace Young , American Idol Finalist Diana Degarmo and Canadian Singer Songwriter and Broadway Hottie Kyle Riabko.
GAY LIFE NYC.org has interviews with the new cast!
Founder Mike Cavnaugh
also interviews Project Runway
finalist Chris March
about his book I Heart Chris March ,
new shows, and his dress for Meryle Streep!
Gaylifenyc.org is a non-profit entertainment news and AIDS Health Resources site dedicated to keeping you informed and keeping your spirits up where they should be.
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Q TALK – The Gay View?
Q-Talk is a gay live talk/variety show with four hosts (each of which is a theater veteran), held monthly at the Metropolitan Room (@ 34 W. 22nd St., between 5th and 6th Ave.) in NYC on the third Saturday of every month at 9:45pm.
Just like the “View”, there are four hosts (except this time there are three gay guys and a lesbian), a topic, and several guest performers.
Qtalk, often described as “the Gay View” is much more fun, sassy and over-the-top. At the same time, Qtalk deals with very real issues, but manages to be entertaining and engaging. Qtalk’s live talk/variety show format is led by four hosts, Broadway veterans Joseph John, Frantz Hall, Stacey Todd Holt, and Angie McKnight.
The hosts tackle current events, fitness and lifestyle, punctuated by guest performances from Broadway, Cabaret, and the Pop world.
During the show, the hosts invite the audience to ask questions or offer their opinions on specific topics on the table, often leading to some lively discussions and perhaps opening some minds.
This month’s topic is “Gay Siblings.”
The three gay Gamblin Brothers will be there chatting – Is it Hereditary or Just Fabulous?
The date for this month’s show is Sat. Feb. 20 at 9:45pm.
It’s a lot of fun and worth checking out!
Time
9:45pm. You need to arrive by 9:15pm to guarantee your seat.
Cost
$5 per person admission, plus two drink minimum.
Reservations are required. Please call 212-206-0440 or go to
Metropolitan Room.com for a reservation.For more information, go to Q TALK or FaceBook Q Talk.
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New York Artist Keith Haring – Twenty Years Later
KEITH HARING
was an artist and social activist whose work responded to the New York City street culture of the 1980s.
February 16th, 1990, the pop artist died is HIV / AIDS related causes at the age of 31. But his art still lives on.
Haring achieved his first public attention with chalk drawings in the subways of New York (see public art). The exhibitions were filmed by the photographer Tseng Kwong Chi.
Around this time, “The Radiant baby” became his symbol. His bold lines, vivid colors, and active figures carry strong messages of life and unity. Starting in 1980, he organized exhibitions in Club 57. He participated in the Times Square Exhibition and drew, for the first time, animals and human faces. In 1981 he sketched his first chalk drawings on black paper and painted plastic, metal and found objects.
By expressing concepts of birth, death, love, sex and war, Haring’s imagery has become a widely recognized visual language of the 20th century. In December 2007, an area of the American Textile Building in the TriBeCa neighborhood of New York City was discovered to contain a painting of Haring’s from 1979. May 4 2008 would have been Haring’s 50th birthday. In June 2008 there was a retrospective exhibition containing 200 pieces of his work (from the collection of Sigrid Wecken) open to the public in Terrassa, Spain.
(Amazing shot of Keith painting Grace Jones by Douglas Kirkland!)
Haring’s bold lines and active figures carry poignant messages of vitality and unity. His legacy made an impact on late 20th century art and grants us all a vision for the future.
Keith generously contributed his talents and resources to numerous causes. He conducted art workshops with children, created logos and posters for public service agencies, and produced murals, sculptures, and paintings to benefit health centers and disadvantaged communities. The foundation continues his philanthropic legacy…indefinitely.
Visit the Keith Haring site.
Reverend Billy Holds Unmarriage Until Gay Marriage – in Central Park
ARTIST / ACTIVIST REVEREND BILLY held an “unmarriage until gay marriage” ceremony
at Central Park’s Bethesda Fountain on this past Sunday.
(Under the stage name of Bill Talen, REVEREND BILLY uses the form of a revival meeting, on sidewalks and in chain stores, Reverend Billy and his gospel choir exhort consumers to abandon the products of large corporations and mass media; the group also preaches a broader message of economic justice, environmental protection, and anti-militarism, protesting sweatshops and the Iraq War. Though it continues its street theatre activities, the Church has also appeared on stage and has toured internationally.)
The good Reverend held church in Central Park on Valentines Day – straight couples reversed their vows in solidarity with the same sex marriage movement. We could not be there, but the Village Voice said, “The happy twosomes — some married, some in long-term relationships — arranged themselves before a floral trellis. The theatrical activist and former mayoral candidate, who typically preaches an anti-consumerist gospel, then stepped forward to take a rather slushy pulpit, officiating the Valentine’s Day mass “unwedding.”
Clutching unmarriage certificates, couples said they would continue to fight for their gay and lesbian friends, whose enduring relationships lack the legal benefits that they enjoy. “After today, I’m just going back to Young,” joked Georgina Young-Ellis, who unmarried her husband Jonathan of 22-years.
THE OUT NYC – Gay Urban Resort Planned for the City by Parkview Developers
THE AXEL hotels, based in Spain, were planning to break
ground on a property here in NYC in 2011.
Well, NOT GONNA HAPPEN. I was in Barcelona last week and met with the Axel people, and even though they plan to come to NYC sometime in the future, it is not on the current radar screen.
It was just rumors and gossip.
Or was it…….
This week comes news that in fact another “hetero-friendly” hotel will be opening here in the city.
The Parkview Developers, run by a gay New York couple, are calling the project “The Out NYC.” (What an awful name!)
The development, to be completed by early next year, will consist of 123 guest rooms, a 10,000-square-foot dance club, a gym, spa, restaurant, and a 24/7 café. Much of the complex will be housed in the old Travel Inn, which was built in the 1960s, and is located at 508 W. 42nd St. (between 10th and 11th).
The $20 million “Urban Gay Resort” could bring nearly 80,000 square feet of new gayness to the city. If built, it will be New York’s first full-service gay hotel, and the first new nightclub serving the gay community in more than five years to have a cabaret license.
There are lots of obstacles ahead for their idea but they are getting lots of support. John Blair and Beto Sutter are also involved with the project. The most significant hurdle at this point — for the nightclub and for the overall character of the project that ends up being built — is approval of both a liquor license and a cabaret license for the nightclub.
With only three Manhattan gay nightclubs — Splash, the Monster, and Escuelita — licensed for dancing, and a total capacity of less than 2,300 patrons combined, Blair, Sutter, and the Parkview team clearly see a ripe opportunity to fill the void in nightlife options, particularly for Hell’s Kitchen’s swelling gay population.
LOVE HURTS… On The Down Low March 2nd – 7th
Love Hurts
is an inspirationjal stage play about 4 couples who keep secrets within their relationships. One of the secrets that is reveiled is that 2 men in the play are on the “down low”. It’s a dramedy featuring musical performances. It will make you laugh – it will make you cry.
Four couples, who’ve known each other since high school are having their annual reunion. Every year they meet up at Diane and Wayne’s summer house upstate. While on vacation, they play a game of Truth or Dare.
Hidden secrets, desires, and deceit are all revealed and pushed to the surface. Secretly, there are two men that are on the downlow and have had a secret love affair unbenownst to their partners.
These Secrets threaten their long lasting bond of friendship, but also the marriages and families of all involved. Everything is revealed in the end and that’s when all hell breaks loose.
DARRLY JOHNSON presents this play examines the thoughts and desires of people in love and how much they hurt when secrets are kept.
Can the truth really set us free?
LOVE HURTS
will keep you on the edge of your seats!
LOVE HURTS – MARCH 2-7, 2010 @ ROY ARIAS THEATRE, 300 W. 43rd street
TICKETS AT Smart Tix.com USE PROMO CODE “couple” AND RECEIVE $10 OFF
LOVE HURTS ON FACEBOOK
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Will the Manhattan Madam Run For the Governor Seat of New York State?
“Last Saturday I gave the first political speech of my life. I spoke to the Manhattan Libertarian party and told them I planning a campaign for Governor of New York State.” stated the Manhattan Madam, Kristin Davis.
” I have not decided whether to seek the Libertarian party nomination or form my own party based on my platform; legalization, regulation and taxation of prostitution, marijuana, and legalizing gay marriage.
When was the last time a candidate put forward this kind of honest, radical platform? When is the last time a politician offered the voters something different than higher taxes, more spending, greater debt and service cuts.”
“I am the one who will be running and putting my name on the ballot. I am the one who will offer New York voters something different. I am the one advocating using our voice to speak out against inequality and the one who is ready to take on the career politicians and expose them for who they really are! I know the politicians and political reporters wont take me seriously at first. Let’s see if they are still laughing when my campaign files three times the number of signatures needed to get on the ballot.
New York voters will have a chance to vote to legalize prostitution, pot and gay marriage next November.
What could be more exciting?”
You Go Kristin! We’ll Support You!
Read more at her blog Manhattan Madam
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Gay Millionaire Matchmaker Speed Dating
WHO WANT’S TO
MARRY A GAY MILLIONAIRE?!
Join THE MEN EVENT for the launch of our NEW “Millionaire Matchmaking” Speed Dating. Due to popular demand we are creating this exciting new event.
Go on 8 short dates in one night! Each date lasts 6 to 8 minutes and is a really fun, quick and easy way for gay men to meet each other. If there is chemistry from both guys, we will connect the two and you can go on more dates. $25 registration
Successful men (38 and over) will be matched with younger men (35 and younger) who admire successful men. Remember, if you’re looking for a serious stable relationship, no matter how much money a man has nothing can replace chemistry. If you tend to find chemistry with a guy who is outside of your age range, then this might be the event for you.
WEDNESDAY FEBRUAY 17th 6:30pm check-in/cocktails / 7pm start
Location: Gossip, 733 9th Ave at 50th St
RSVP at MILLIONAIRE SPEED DATE
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Boys Night @ YANK…A World War II Love Story
BOYS NIGHT
At Yank! A World War II Love Story
Thursday, February 18th, 8 PM
Set during World War II, Yank! chronicles the relationship between two servicemen long before ―Don‘t-ask-don‘t-tell‖ was part of the national discussion. With a lively score inspired by the pop sounds of the 1940‘s, Yank! captures the spirit and exuberance of the era as it explores questions of prejudice, courage and survival.
Bobby Steggert will enlist in the Off-Broadway premiere of Yank!
“We are thrilled to welcome Bobby back to the cast of Yank! after his sensational performance in Ragtime,” said Artistic Director Morgan said.
OFF-BROADWAY PREMIERE ENGAGEMENT BEGINS FEBRUARY 16, 2010
OPENING NIGHT SET FOR FEBRUARY 24, 2010
BOYS NIGHT = Purchase a $39.50 ticket to Yank! on Thursday, February 18th and receive a voucher for Free admission to the Post-Show Boys Night reception featuring wine, cheese and sodas. This is a perfect opportunity to see the show and mingle with fellow theatre-goers and the cast. Post-Show Boys Night Reception directly following the performance in the Music Room.
at The York Theatre Company – 619 Lexington Avenue (Corner of 54th St.)
Two Easy Ways to Purchase Boys Night Tickets
Join Boys Night at Yank! on Thursday, February 18th for just $39.50 (regularly $67.50)
1. Visit YorkTheatre.org and mention code BOYS39
2. CALL (212) 935-5820 and mention code BOYS39
Restrictions:
This offer is valid for the 8PM performance on February 18th only. Regular service charges apply to online and phone orders. Subject to availability. Not valid for prior purchases or in combination with any other offer. Limit 8 tickets per order. Offer may be revoked at any time. One party admission voucher is available per ticket purchased. Admittance to party is contingent on redemption of voucher and can only be redeemed for those 21 and over with valid ID.
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Win a Trip To Amsterdam and Watch for the S Subway Train Car and FREE Holland Giveaways
Anyone who has been to Holland knows it is the perfect place to just be amazed, just be relaxed and just be yourself! That’s why the Netherlands Board of Tourism and Conventions (NBTC) is launching its newest marketing campaign on February 4th in North America, “Just be. In Holland.” to appeal to every type of traveler. Whether your style is classic or contemporary, Holland has something for everyone, from iconic Dutch canals and windmills to innovative design shops and cutting-edge fashion.
To mark the launch of this new year-long campaign, NBTC will test potential travelers’ knowledge of Holland through a series of contests on Holland.com. A new contest will be posted every Thursday in February. Each correct online entry will be entered into a weekly drawing for a chance to win an incredible prize that highlights a different aspect of Holland’s unique style.
Prizes include –
· A monthly delivery of fresh tulips for a year
· An exclusive Gassan 121 diamond made in Amsterdam
· A quintessentially BATAVUS Dutch bicycle
· An iconic $1000 Carbon chair designed by Marcel Wanders and Bertjan Pot
In addition to the weekly prizes, one grand prize winner will be awarded the ultimate experience: a chance to just be in Holland! In order to qualify for the grand prize—two round-trip, business class tickets on KLM Royal Dutch Airlines to Amsterdam and a four-night stay at the Sofitel Amsterdam The Grand—potential travelers simply need to upload a photo showing how they would “Just be. In Holland.” between February 4 and March 4, 2010. The most creative entry will be selected.
In addition to the weekly contests running on Holland.com throughout February, those who live in New York City will have a chance to be transported to Holland via themed subway cars on the S subway shuttle line, which runs between Grand Central and Times Square. Each car—wrapped inside and out—will represent Holland’s cultural, classic and contemporary aspects and include translations of fun Dutch phrases and words. In addition, street teams will be deployed at the Grand Central and Times Square stations each week to distribute Holland-themed giveaways.
Conrad van Tiggelen, Director, NBTC North America, looks forward to engaging with potential travelers for the launch of the new campaign. “The new ‘Just be. In Holland.’ campaign epitomizes what repeat visitors to Holland already know—that Holland is a place where you can truly be yourself and discover a world of authentic and modern experiences, whether you are interested in art, culture, design, fashion or architecture.”
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Interview with Broadway Hottie Dan Robinson @ Gay Life NYC.org
Michael Cavanaugh
from GayLifeNYC.org
is back with a
February Valentines
Broadyway Hottie –
Dan Robinson!
He is a super hottie and was the main featured star last year at Broadway Bares in New York. This year, he is going behind the camera to film a documentary about the event.
On his video interview Dan talks about being on Broadway with Harvey Fierstein as well as his work in The Big Gay Musical .
Gaylifenyc.org is an AIDS Health Resources website with Entertainment News and On The Town updates.
It’s also dedicated to helping people getting around, get through and get over the system that hinders timely assistance for the newly diagnosed & people living with HIV/AIDS.
And it’s dedicated to entertaining you, and keeping your spirits up where they should be!
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The Temperamentals…starring Michael Urie from Ugly Betty
Critics hail
The Temperamentals
as intelligent, political, witty, moving, wise, and most importantly, entertaining.
It tells the story of a group of courageous men who joined together to build the Mattachine Society, the first gay rights organization in the United States. The play features the intimate and complex relationship between Harry Hay and young fashion designer Rudy Gernreich, set against the backdrop of 1950’s Hollywood and the McCarthy era.
“it’s impossible not to be moved” – Time Out New York
“‘Evocative…The Temperamentals succeeds… the cast is, to a man, excellent” – New York Times
Michael Urie is an actor, television producer and director, best known for his portrayal of Marc St. James on the ABC dramedy series Ugly Betty. He joins The Tempermentals, as Rudy, in New York City this month!
“Temperamental” was code for “homosexual” in the early 1950’s, part of a created language of secret words that gay men used to communicate. The Temperamentals tells the story of two men – the communist Harry Hay and the Viennese refugee and designer Rudi Gernreich – as they fall in love while building the first gay rights organization in the pre-Stonewall United States.
Previews begin February 18th
Opening Night – February 28th
Tickets on sale NOW!
$19.52 Preview Tickets! Limited time offer!
You have one of three ways
to use the following discount code: TEPREV12
Call (212) 947-8844
Go to the New World Stages Box Office
or Visit Broadwayoffers.com
New World Stages @ 340 West 50th Street
For all other performance times and tickets, please visit Telecharge or call (646)871-1730
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Gay Pimps Atlantic City on Chelsea Lately – Out in the AC
The Gays Love Chelsea Handler!
And we love GUY BRANUM and CHRIS FRANJOLA from Chelsea Lately.
As you may remember, Harrah’s Atlantic City have started launching special events and parties geared exclusively for the LGBT community. And we were there for their big kick-off weekend back in late September. Guy and Chris from Chelsea Lately also joined us for the festivities. And today this short video was released on the E! Chelsea website.
(watch for the Gay Pimps and Micah Jesse)
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Yorkshire Terrier Number One in New York City
YORKSHIRE TERRIER
this year in the US.
However, it is the number one dog,
for the second year in a row,
in NEW YORK CITY!
“New York City loves their small dogs,” said Lisa Peterson, spokeswoman for the American Kennel Club, which released the list of the most popular pure breeds. “It just reinforces the fact that New Yorkers live a busy, fast-paced lifestyle and need their portable pooches.”
Read More about Yorkies!
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ON THE HOUSE Theatre Promotion Sale Returns to New York City
“Off Broadway is an important cornerstone of New York City’s arts and entertainment scene, and On the House gives us a forum to showcase the wealth of talent found in these unique productions throughout the City,” said George Fertitta, CEO of NYC & Company. “The program also provides an affordable platform for residents and visitors to enjoy some of the City’s best theater.”
Theaters participating in the promotion are scattered throughout Manhattan, including Chelsea, Midtown, the Upper East Side, the Upper West Side, the East Village and the West Village. Long-running shows such as The Fantasticks and Perfect Crime join limited-engagement productions such as Mr. & Mrs. Fitch (starring John Lithgow) in this year’s promotion.
“On behalf of the Off-Broadway League, I am excited to see the return of the On the House program for the second year and also to see it extended an additional week this year,” said George Forbes, president of the Off-Broadway League. “The Off-Broadway theater community looks forward to offering this tremendous value to New Yorkers and visitors alike.”
Productions participating in On the House: A Lie of the Mind, Ages of the Moon, Avenue Q, Awesome 80s Prom, Candida, Circumcise Me, Clybourne Park, Equivocation, The Fantasticks, Fuerza Bruta, The Gazillion Bubble Show, Happy Now?, MazelTov Cocktail, Measure for Measure, Mr. & Mrs. Fitch, Naked Boys Singing!, Perfect Crime, The Pride, The Scottsboro Boys, Signs of Life, STOMP, The Tempermentals, Top Secret: The Battle for the Pentagon Papers, Venus in Fur and Yank!
Check out NYC GO for details.
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Lady Bunny and Matthew Pender Join When Joey Married Bobby
“ When Joey Married Bobby”, starring Lady Bunny, two-time S.A.G.Award Nominee Tina McKissick and introducing former Detroit Tiger Pitcher Matthew Pender as Joey, opens February 6, 2010 for an open-ended run at Off-Broadway house Theatre 80 St. Marks, between 1st & 2nd Avenues.
Bright-eyed hunk Joey (Matthew Pender) has finally met the man of his dreams and ready to take a plunge into marriage. The thought of a gay wedding has Joey’s southern socialite mother Sarah Edwards (Tina McKissick) in quite a tizzy.
Worried that the news of her son’s nuptials might jeopardize her chances of winning “Christian of the Year,” Sarah stops at nothing to protect her name, image and reputation. The legendary Lady Bunny co-stars in the play as the power-wielding, Baptist Minister’s Wife, Charity Divine.
The play runs Thursdays, Fridays and Saturdays
at 8pm and Sundays at 3pm. …
There is a special Valentines Day
show on Sunday, February 14th at 7pm.
Tickets range from $26.00-$30.00
Rows A-C: $30 Rows D-G: $26
All seating is reserved
Tickets can be purchased by calling:
212.388.0388 or by visiting: Theatre 80
Sorry Nick,
I think my heart now belongs to Matthew….sigh
When Joey Married Bobby
Lady Bunny
Photo Matthew Pender by DELGAR
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Ari Gold Wins 3 PILL Awards Last Night
“Last night, thanks to YOU voting, “Human” took home 3 Pill Awards last night for Best Art Direction and Best Pop Video!
I also wanted to say thanks again for everyone who joined this Fan Page and has supported my music. I can’t do it without you!
We are gonna rock 2010!!”
In a new interview, he talks about his upcoming album…
You are now hard at work on your next album, which is right now untitled. What makes the new album stand out from the past three? Can you tell fans yet what the major theme of this album will be?
“I can’t tell you too much about it yet, but I will say that it will definitely be the most dance-oriented album I’ve ever made. I’ve had the concept for it since I finished Transport Systems and its great to finally see it coming together.
One thing I can say is that this album explores the dark side a bit more than in the past. I think before I was very conscious of being a positive role model, but with this album I’ve sort of let that go being that I don’t feel the burden of representation so heavily on my shoulders anymore. I’m very excited about it and can’t wait to share it with the world.”
Read the full interview at Queeried
Join his Facebook Fan page
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Gay Comic Billy Eichner and Rachel Dratch – Forest Hills State of Mind
SO FUNNY!
Gay Comedian Billy Eichner’s version of Jay Z’s hit song Empire State of Mind. Featuring the hilarious Rachel Dratch (Saturday Night Live) as Alicia Keys!!!
Billy Eichner has been making a name for himself in New York City for quite some time. Eichner is the star, writer, and co-creator of Creation Nation: A Live Talk Show. Creation Nation, which plays regularly in New York City, was called a “late night theatrical phenomenon” by the New York Times and Mr. Eichner was recently given the Time Out New York Critic’s Award as well as Time Out New York’s “Biggest Industry Darling” Award.
Watch the Eichner Dratch Video Q & A with After Elton Billy Eichner on FaceBook
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There is a New King (Queen?) on Fire Island – Seth Jordan Weissman
NEXT Magazine broke the story first, that Von Kuersteiner and his business partner Tony Roncalli—whose empire includes two bars, a restaurant, a dance club, a small gym, a grocery store, a clothing store, a construction business, a freight business, the community’s dock, and the only hotel in town—has sold most of their properties to Seth Weissman, a young kid who no one knows anything about other than that he is from a rich family and is connected to the Hamptons and that he is an analyst at hedge fund Perry Capital who lives in Gramercy Park.
The deal—which is set to close next week—is reportedly $18 million for everything but the dock and freight companies.
GAWKER reports…Von Kuersteiner and Roncalli rescued the small resort five years ago since it had fallen into disrepair, but their business practices—especially von Kuersteiner’s, always the more public of the two—were often called into question. Since the town is so small and they were one of only three business owners, they often exercised their monopoly. They opened a grocery store to compete with the only other place to buy food—a small, family-owned store that had been there for decades. They had an acrimonious relationship with many of the local home owners and other business because they controlled the dock which means they controlled access to the island. Anything they asked for—or more often, demanded—they got.
Von Kuersteiner and Co especially had hard feelings for the neighboring gay community, Cherry Grove, and used their dock access to stop boats from taking visitors from one village to the next, and for anyone who has drunkenly stumbled through the Meat Rack—the dense forest between the two towns—at 3am, not having a boat to bring you to and fro is more than enough to keep you partying closer to your summer share and putting cash into Von Kuersteiner and Roncalli’s pockets. They also reportedly demanded that the army of young pretty boys they hired to staff all their properties were forbidden from hanging out in the Grove, even on their nights off.
Rumors are flying left and right he’s changing everything, he’s not changing a thing, this is great, this is horrible, blah, blah, blah, talk amongst yourselves. The summer season is still a few months away!
